Votes given by Alessandro Brozzetti

view post Posted: 29/4/2024, 15:38 by: Umberto Beccalossi     +1Sito primati - Repository site - SISTEMI E SISTEMISTICA
ma perché non mettete il file in allegato? Scorrere chilometri di sviluppo è una perdita di tempo e mancanza di rispetto per gli utenti.
view post Posted: 29/4/2024, 15:32 by: ARBAZZONE     -1Sito primati - Repository site - SISTEMI E SISTEMISTICA
CITAZIONE (rosmarinomartin @ 22/4/2024, 09:53) 
Buongiorno.

Scende ancora, ma molto lentamente.

A PROPOSITO DEL 30 09 08 15


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view post Posted: 3/4/2024, 13:56 by: Vaschetto     +1Ridotto Totocalcio: 2 triple + 4 doppie = 20 - Sistemi per Scommesse & Totocalcio
CITAZIONE (Sventra Papere @ 3/4/2024, 13:59) 
e sarebbe ora che Jurcovich svelasse il metodo per ottenere le riduzioni tramite i filtri AND e OR. Potrebbe tornare utile anche al lotto. Grazie in anticipo Alessandro se vorrai dar seguito a questa richiesta!

Mi associo anch'io alla richiesta di Sventra. La curiosità e la voglia di imparare è tanta!
view post Posted: 3/4/2024, 12:59 by: Sventra Papere     +1Ridotto Totocalcio: 2 triple + 4 doppie = 20 - Sistemi per Scommesse & Totocalcio
CITAZIONE (Alessandro Brozzetti @ 30/3/2024, 00:38) 
Il mio cruccio maggiore è come si fa a stabilire una precisa filtroriduzione con simboli e punteggi adeguati tali da raggiungere i relativi primati. Il maestro incontrastato in questo campo è stato Alessandro Jurcovich. Chissà se ora se la sente di farci partecipi sul metodo usato per far coincidere simboli e punteggi in modo da restituire uno sviluppo ridotto da primato!
Auguro a tutti una buona notte ed una serena Pasqua

e sarebbe ora che Jurcovich svelasse il metodo per ottenere le riduzioni tramite i filtri AND e OR. Potrebbe tornare utile anche al lotto. Grazie in anticipo Alessandro se vorrai dar seguito a questa richiesta!
view post Posted: 24/3/2024, 22:51 by: qlatino     +1Sito primati - Repository site - SISTEMI E SISTEMISTICA
CITAZIONE (Alessandro Brozzetti @ 24/3/2024, 20:29) 
Non è mia la paternità del sistema di 86 colonne, bensì di Evandro De Simone.
Buona serata

Chiedo scusa, nella pubblicazione indicavo il nome corretto, ma in questa sede ho confuso il nome :wacko:

ciao
view post Posted: 5/2/2024, 00:15 by: vino     -1Sito primati - Repository site - SISTEMI E SISTEMISTICA
3215091543

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view post Posted: 27/1/2024, 14:15 by: Giovanni A. (a.k.a. krypta)     +1X ACERBI - POSSIBILE VELOCIZZAZIONE? - SISTEMI E SISTEMISTICA
Nessuna fregnaccia ma è normale (ahimè) che sia così, soprattutto se stai elaborando un sistema dove ogni colonna copre molte colonne e ce ne sono ancora parecchie da coprire (più di 40k in questo caso).

Considera che il programma toglie una riga (o più a seconda del search depth), ricalcola e memorizza le nuove colonne scoperte, aggiunge una riga (o più) e fa nuovamente il calcolo delle colonne scoperte e poi comincia a cercare miglioramenti.

Quello che posso fare è rivedere il codice per provare a velocizzarne l'esecuzione ma non sarà facile (temo).

Buon fine settimana.

Giovanni

P.S. Ho fatto un paio di modifiche al programma ma niente di eclatante o migliorativo delle prestazioni. Lo metto online nei prossimi giorni.
view post Posted: 9/1/2024, 09:59 by: vino     -1Sito primati - Repository site - SISTEMI E SISTEMISTICA
come anticipato una settimana fa stavo chiudendo il 26 11 07 11 colonne 70
ho visto che copiando totalmente la mia base sono arrivati a 75 74 73 72 71
intestandosi la paternità ecco il 70 divertitevi....

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01 02 05 07 09 14 16 18 23 25 26
01 02 06 07 08 10 21 22 23 24 25
01 02 07 09 10 11 12 13 16 20 24
01 02 08 09 11 15 17 18 24 25 26
01 02 08 10 11 14 15 18 19 22 23
01 03 04 06 07 14 15 17 18 21 25
01 03 04 06 10 12 13 19 20 21 22
01 03 04 07 08 12 16 20 24 25 26
01 03 04 08 09 13 14 18 19 23 24
01 03 04 09 10 15 16 17 22 23 26
01 03 05 06 08 10 14 16 20 21 22
01 03 05 07 10 12 14 16 19 21 23
01 03 08 10 11 12 15 17 19 21 24
01 04 05 06 07 10 11 18 19 24 25
01 04 05 06 07 13 14 16 20 22 23
01 04 05 07 08 15 18 19 21 22 26
01 04 06 08 11 13 15 17 20 22 24
01 04 06 09 11 14 16 19 21 24 26
01 05 07 08 11 14 15 16 17 23 24
01 05 08 09 12 14 17 19 20 22 25
01 05 11 12 13 15 17 19 21 23 25
01 06 07 08 09 10 12 13 15 18 26
01 11 12 13 18 19 22 23 24 25 26
01 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25
02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 14
02 03 04 05 11 16 21 22 23 24 25
02 03 04 09 12 15 20 21 23 24 25
02 03 05 06 07 12 13 17 18 22 23
02 03 05 07 09 13 17 20 21 24 26
02 03 06 07 14 15 19 20 23 24 26
02 03 08 09 13 14 15 16 20 21 22
02 04 06 07 09 12 14 17 19 22 24
02 04 06 08 12 13 15 16 19 23 25
02 04 06 12 13 14 16 18 22 25 26
02 04 07 10 13 15 16 17 18 21 24
02 04 08 10 12 14 17 20 21 23 26
02 05 06 08 11 12 14 18 20 21 24
02 05 07 10 12 15 17 19 20 22 25
02 05 08 09 10 13 16 19 22 24 26
02 06 07 11 12 15 16 17 21 22 26
02 07 08 11 13 14 18 19 20 21 25
02 09 14 15 16 17 20 22 23 25 26
03 04 06 09 10 15 17 19 20 22 24
03 04 08 10 11 12 14 16 18 22 25
03 05 06 08 09 12 15 16 18 22 24
03 05 06 08 14 17 19 21 22 25 26
03 05 08 09 11 12 19 20 22 23 26
03 05 08 10 13 15 18 20 23 24 25
03 06 07 09 11 13 15 16 19 22 25
03 06 08 11 13 16 18 21 23 24 26
03 06 09 11 12 13 14 17 20 23 25
03 07 08 09 11 13 16 19 20 21 26
03 07 10 11 14 17 18 20 22 24 26
04 05 06 09 10 12 17 18 23 24 26
04 05 07 08 09 12 13 16 17 21 25
04 05 09 10 14 15 19 20 21 24 25
04 06 10 11 12 15 16 18 19 23 26
04 07 08 10 11 13 17 19 23 25 26
04 07 09 11 12 15 18 20 21 22 23
05 06 10 11 15 16 20 21 23 25 26
05 09 10 11 13 14 17 18 21 22 23
05 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 26
06 07 08 09 10 16 17 18 19 20 23
07 10 12 13 14 15 21 22 24 25 26


tutto è partito dal 27 11 05 07 di qlatino come già ricordato piu volte
view post Posted: 6/1/2024, 06:42 by: vino     +1Sito primati - Repository site - SISTEMI E SISTEMISTICA
CITAZIONE (qlatino @ 5/1/2024, 12:48) 
Ciao a tutti,

ho caricato il (27,11,5,7)=58 ex 59 di Terenzio Lazzarotto

01 03 06 09 12 13 17 20 23 25 26
16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 27
01 03 07 09 13 15 16 19 22 25 26
01 04 06 08 13 15 17 20 22 24 26
02 04 08 10 11 12 14 17 20 21 23
02 03 08 09 14 15 16 20 21 22 27
01 04 07 10 11 13 17 19 23 25 26
02 03 06 07 11 15 19 20 23 24 25
03 05 08 10 13 15 18 20 23 25 27
01 03 08 10 12 15 17 19 21 24 26
01 02 06 07 11 12 16 17 21 22 26
01 05 07 08 14 15 16 17 23 24 26
02 05 07 10 12 15 17 20 22 25 27
01 02 03 04 05 21 22 23 24 25 26
01 02 09 10 12 13 16 20 23 24 26
02 03 06 09 10 13 14 16 17 24 25
03 04 07 08 11 12 16 20 24 25 27
01 03 07 10 11 14 18 20 22 24 26
01 04 07 09 12 15 18 20 21 23 26
05 06 07 08 09 10 16 17 18 19 20
02 04 06 08 12 14 15 16 19 23 25
01 05 09 10 13 14 17 18 21 22 26
01 05 08 09 11 12 19 20 22 23 26
02 03 07 12 13 17 18 22 23 24 27
04 05 06 07 13 14 16 20 22 23 27
03 04 08 09 13 14 18 19 23 24 27
02 05 08 10 11 13 16 19 22 24 27
02 04 06 09 11 13 18 20 22 25 27
04 05 07 08 11 15 18 19 21 22 27
03 05 06 08 11 14 17 19 22 25 27
01 03 06 08 09 11 16 18 21 23 26
01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 26
03 04 06 10 12 13 19 20 21 22 27
03 05 07 10 12 14 16 19 21 23 27
02 03 09 10 11 12 18 19 21 25 27
04 05 08 09 12 13 16 17 21 25 27
02 05 06 09 13 15 17 19 21 23 27
01 02 03 04 05 16 17 18 19 20 26
01 02 07 08 13 14 18 19 20 21 26
01 04 08 10 12 14 16 18 22 25 26
01 02 06 10 14 15 18 19 22 23 26
01 06 10 11 14 15 16 20 21 25 26
01 04 05 06 11 12 18 19 24 25 26
02 05 06 08 12 14 18 20 21 24 27
03 05 07 09 11 13 17 20 21 24 27
05 06 09 12 15 16 18 19 22 24 27
06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 15 17 27
02 04 06 07 09 12 14 17 19 24 27
11 12 13 14 15 21 22 23 24 25 27
01 02 03 04 05 11 12 13 14 15 26
03 04 06 07 14 15 17 18 21 25 27
02 05 07 09 11 14 16 18 23 25 27
04 09 10 11 15 16 17 22 23 24 27
04 06 07 10 13 15 16 18 21 24 27
04 05 09 10 14 19 20 21 24 25 27
05 06 07 08 09 10 21 23 24 25 27
01 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 26
02 08 09 11 14 15 17 18 24 25 27

questo sistema e' derivato dal mio (25,10,5,7)=60 che garantiva 3 volte 5 con 7 numeri, poi superato di 2 colonne, ma senza la stessa resa. Tale sistema sopravvive identico con altra garanzia (25,10,6,9)=60 e con (25,10,8,14)=60 (e' lo stesso sistema) e da esso derivano diversi altri primati che all'epoca non potei curare personalmente non avendo verificatori ne possibilita' di farlo registrare e nei quali purtroppo non compaio neanche come coautore.

ciao

Franco

qlatino sta rivoluzionando la sistemistica signori....

in oltre dai suoi sistemi se ne abbattono facilmente altri

ad esempio partendo dal sopra citato
si ricava il 26 11 06 09 composto da 56 decine e 2 novine

poi probabilmente si abbassa ancora portandolo totalmente in decine
ed ecco il sistema

01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 26
01 02 03 04 05 12 21 22 23 24 25
01 02 03 04 05 16 17 19 20 22 26
01 02 03 06 07 11 15 19 20 23 24
01 02 03 07 08 12 13 17 18 22 23
01 02 04 06 08 12 15 16 19 23 25
01 02 04 06 09 11 13 18 20 22 25
01 02 05 06 09 13 15 17 19 21 23
01 02 05 06 12 14 16 18 20 21 24
01 02 05 07 09 11 14 16 18 23 25
01 02 07 08 13 14 19 20 21 25 26
01 02 08 09 11 15 17 18 24 25 26
01 02 09 10 12 13 16 20 23 24 26
01 03 04 06 10 12 13 19 20 21 22
01 03 04 09 10 11 15 16 17 22 23
01 03 06 09 12 14 17 20 23 25 26
01 03 07 09 13 15 16 19 22 25 26
01 03 07 10 11 14 18 20 22 24 26
01 03 08 10 12 15 17 19 21 24 26
01 04 05 06 07 12 18 19 24 25 26
01 04 05 07 08 11 15 18 19 21 22
01 04 08 10 12 14 16 18 22 25 26
01 05 06 10 11 15 16 20 21 25 26
01 05 07 08 14 15 16 17 23 24 26
01 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15
01 09 10 11 13 14 17 18 21 22 26
01 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
02 03 04 05 11 12 13 14 15 18 24
02 03 06 10 13 14 16 17 24 25 26
02 03 09 10 11 12 14 18 19 21 25
02 04 05 06 08 13 15 17 20 22 24
02 04 06 07 11 12 16 17 21 22 26
02 04 07 10 13 15 16 18 19 21 24
02 04 08 10 11 14 17 20 21 23 24
02 05 06 10 14 15 18 19 22 23 26
02 05 07 10 12 15 17 18 20 22 25
02 05 08 09 10 11 13 16 19 22 24
02 06 07 08 09 10 21 22 23 24 25
03 04 05 06 07 14 15 17 18 21 25
03 04 06 08 09 13 14 18 19 23 24
03 04 06 08 11 13 16 18 21 23 26
03 04 07 08 11 12 16 20 21 24 25
03 05 06 08 11 14 17 19 22 24 25
03 05 06 09 11 12 15 16 18 23 24
03 05 07 09 11 13 17 20 21 22 24
03 05 07 10 11 12 14 16 19 21 23
03 05 08 10 12 13 15 18 20 23 25
04 05 06 07 09 13 14 16 20 22 23
04 05 07 10 11 13 17 19 23 25 26
04 05 08 09 12 13 16 17 21 25 26
04 06 07 09 11 12 14 17 19 22 24
04 07 09 12 15 17 18 20 21 23 26
04 09 10 14 15 19 20 21 24 25 26
05 06 07 08 09 10 16 17 18 19 20
05 06 08 09 11 12 19 20 22 23 26
11 12 13 14 15 18 21 22 23 24 25
02 03 08 09 14 15 16 20 21 22
16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25

view post Posted: 2/1/2024, 14:30 by: v-k-t-m     +1Sito primati - Repository site - SISTEMI E SISTEMISTICA
CITAZIONE (Alessandro Brozzetti @ 2/1/2024, 13:29) 
Questo, ad esempio, è, per me, un messaggio criptico. E' altrettanto vero, però, che la base di partenza per i sistemi ridotti, sia in gran parte dovuta agli integrali, ma da come è esposta la questione, mi risulta incomprensibile!
Buona giornata

“Buongiorno, il sistema integrale funge da contenitore per tutti i sistemi ridotti. Senza l’integrale, non esisterebbero i ridotti. Per quanto riguarda le righe del mio programma, potresti notare poco se non il fatto che ho ottenuto il sistema 37 10 05 08 con 332 colonne di partenza, portando la copertura perfetta a 281 colonne.”,
Buona giornata
view post Posted: 28/12/2023, 11:13 by: v-k-t-m     +1Sito primati - Repository site - SISTEMI E SISTEMISTICA
CITAZIONE (Giovanni A. (a.k.a. krypta) @ 27/12/2023, 20:37) 
Credo possa essere di aiuto questo thread del vecchio forum dove Nino fa diversi interventi in cui spiega come eseguire somme di sistemi e che caratteristiche debbano avere.

https://mrwinforlife.forumcommunity.net/?t=36591808

Di conseguenza puoi capire quali siano quelli che non si possono sommare :D

Ciao.

“Buongiorno Maestro, conosco bene gli interventi di Nino, non si discute. La mia domanda era: ‘Come si fa a dire che una matrice non è costruita per somma?’ È perché le matrici fatte per somma devono passare di scarsa qualità? Allora voglio partire da qui: sistema integrale 10 03 03 03 col.120, ecco la costruzione per somma 09 03 03 03 = col.84 + 09 02 02 02 = col.36 + 10 fisso = colonne 120. Allora mi chiedo, anche questa è di scarsa qualità? Per favore, non ditemi che questo è integrale perché tra ridotto e integrale cambia poco, solo l’approccio. Volete che faccia l’esempio di come ottenere il 20 08 07 14 = col.14? Eccolo: 10 06 05 06 = col.14 + somma orizzontale = 20 12 05 06 = col.14. Il suo inverso è il 20 08 07 14 = col.14.”
ecco anche le colonne :
04 06 09 10 14 16 19 20
04 05 07 09 14 15 17 19
03 07 09 10 13 17 19 20
03 05 08 09 13 15 18 19
03 04 08 10 13 14 18 20
02 06 07 08 12 16 17 18
02 04 08 10 12 14 18 20
02 03 05 06 12 13 15 16
01 07 08 09 11 17 18 19
01 05 07 10 11 15 17 20
01 05 06 08 11 15 16 18
01 03 06 07 11 13 16 17
01 02 09 10 11 12 19 20
01 02 03 04 11 12 13 14
Buona Giornata Maestri
view post Posted: 27/12/2023, 15:54 by: Giovanni A. (a.k.a. krypta)     +1DELUCIDAZIONI SUL WSV - SISTEMI E SISTEMISTICA
CITAZIONE (Alessandro Brozzetti @ 27/12/2023, 15:49) 
1) ok, ma questi ipotetici 10 sistemi devono essere allocati in un'apposita cartella?

Eh sì, come tutti (o almeno credo) i programmi che permettono di selezionare più file in una finestra di explorer, i file devono essere tutti nella stessa cartella.

CITAZIONE (Alessandro Brozzetti @ 27/12/2023, 15:49) 
2) Quello che dici in merito ai sistemi per somma orizzontale è giusto. Tuttavia , mi sto imbattendo in un sistema ottenuto sempre per somma orizzontale, ma che purtroppo non riesco a farlo verificare al WSV data l'enorme quantità delle combinazioni. S tratta del 90,10,4,20=51 (che allego nel caso si riuscisse a verificarlo) ottenuto per somma orizzontale dal 45,5,4,20=51.

Grazie per la tua disponibilità.

Ciao

Faccio qualche prova e ti dico.
view post Posted: 27/12/2023, 13:49 by: sasalino     +120 10 08 10 col.204 parziale - SISTEMI E SISTEMISTICA
Io ci ho provato e riprovato negli anni per ottenere una riduzione ma penso che quella da me ottenuta sia la massima possibile. Peraltro allora ottenuta con soli con pochissimi tentativi. Un augurio di buone feste giunga a tutti Voi. Saverio Papisca
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